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Taylor Group R1b-097

This page is about the Taylor Y-DNA genetic family  designated R1b-097.



Taylor Group R1b-086 Members
Kit #
Name Earliest* known ancestor Hap
Lo Hi
171251 Taylor ? R-M269 1004% 100
N175517 Maple David Maple (1800 PA -? ?) R-BY3317 100% 100
* Earliest = Most distant
** "Score" = Probability of common ancestor w/in 24 generations.
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About this Group

Members are invited to submit information about this genetic family.

The haplogroup of this genetic family appears to be R1b-M269 > U106 > L47 > BY3317.


See http://www.familytreedna.com/public/taylorfamilygenes/default.aspx?section=yresults.

TiP Scores

TiP general

TiP Scores Explained

TiP (for "Time Predictor") is a utility provided by Family Tree DNA. It is accessible to all FTDNA customers with Y-DNA results who have matches listed within the FTDNA reporting windows. It is also available to project administrators for calculating the probabilities that any two project members share a direct paternal ancestor within up to 24 generations.

TiP is superior to most TMRCA calculators. Rather than assume an average mutation rate for all markers compared, TiP uses individual marker mutation frequencies. Because marker mutation rates vary significantly between markers, the TiP scores 

As we use it here, TiP is a truer and simpler measure of genetic distances between individuals than other metrics such as the number of markers in disagreement or a sum of the differences (sometimes called "genetic distance"). TiP boils the complexities down to one number.

The composite TiP score is an index of how closely a member matches the entire group. Generally, the member with the highest score is the central member.


Unless stated otherwise, TiP probabilities are from TiP version 1 (v1) in effect from August 1, 2012 to December 11, 2012. Another version was in effect from December 12, 2012 to January 17, 2013 and was replaced with version 3 (v3) on January 18, 2013. We are in the process of updating to v3. In the meantime, we've made some observations about how v1 and v3 compare:
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Haplogroup & SNPs

One member has tested positive for BY3317, downstream of M343 (R1b), M269, U106 & L47.

Phylogenetic placement

R-BY3317 is downstream (a subclade) of R-M269. The apparent progression is M269 > U106  > .. > L4 >.. > BY3317.


The highest present concentrations of the ancestral SNP _ are in _.


The age and location of origin of the newly-discovered BY3317 are presently unknown. However, U106 is generally considered a "Germanic" subclade of R-M269.


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Revised 05 Sep 2016