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Taylor Group R1b-035

This page is about the Taylor Y-DNA genetic family designated number R1b-035, its members, Y-DNA and their descent from a common ancestor.



Taylor Group R1b-035 Members

Kit #
Name Earliest known ancestor Hap
Score **
_80547 Taylor     ? R-P312* 65.2% 91.0%
100194 Taylor Richard Taylor (~1640 ? -1679 ?) R-P312* 67.6% 100%
157892 Taylor Simon Taylor (1729 VA - 1786? VA) R-P312* 79.6% 100%
159898 Taylor Richard Taylor (~1640 ? - 1679 ?) R-P312* 79.6% 100%
166642 Taylor Richard Taylor (~1640 ENG? - 1679 VA) R-P312* 65.2% 100%
171797 Taylor ? R-P312* 95.2% 100%
251871 Taylor Richard Taylor (? ? - ? ?) R-P312 79.6% 100%
B4395 Taylor ? R-P312*   >80%
358540 Taylor Lewis Taylor (1807 ? - ? ?) R-Z209 65% 100%
350056 Taylor Richard Taylor R-M269   95%
415657 Taylor   R-M269   99.9%
510122 Taylor Zachariah Taylor (1739 - 1794) R-M269 96% 98.5%

About this group

Group 35 consists mostly of descendants of Richard Taylor (d. 1679), who settled in the Northern Neck of Virginia (in the area which became Richmond County) before 1662. The current group's known most recent common ancestor (MRCA) is Richard's son Simon Taylor (d. 1729), since the group includes descendants of two of Simon's sons.

A detailed article on Richard's origins and immediate family is currently in press: Nathaniel L. Taylor, "The False and Possibly True English Origins of Richard Taylor of Old Rappahannock County, Virginia," _The American Genealogist_ (forthcoming).

By the late 19th century, Richard's descendants are found, in Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Texas, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and points further west.

The pedigree chart below shows the descent from Richard Taylor (ca1640 -1679) of group members, as of December 2009:

Richard Taylor descendants

The progress and results of the group's DNA testing have been blogged at http://nltaylor.net/sketchbook/archives/category/us-genealogy/taylor-dna. {Opens in a new window.}

Additional resources, including an e-book by Nathaniel L. Taylor, "An American Taylor Family: Descendants of Richard Taylor (d. 1679) of North Farnham Parish in the Northern Neck of Virginia for Seven Generations" (193 pp.), are online at http://www.nltaylor.net/taylor. {Opens in a new window.}

The members of this line are in haplogroup R1b1a2, the most common in the Taylor surname project and indicating a probable origin in the British Isles.


See http://www.familytreedna.com/public/taylorfamilygenes/default.aspx?section=yresults.

Group R1b-035: Haplogroup = R1b-P312

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Haplotype Rarity

Based on the values of the individual markers, the members of this genetic family score, on average, in the Rare range. Their haplotypes are among the least common 5%.

TiP Scores

TiP general

TiP Scores Explained

TiP (for "Time Predictor") is a utility provided by Family Tree DNA. It is accessible to all FTDNA customers with Y-DNA results who have matches listed within the FTDNA reporting windows. It is also available to project administrators for calculating the probabilities that any two project members share a direct paternal ancestor within up to 24 generations.

TiP is superior to most TMRCA calculators. Rather than assume an average mutation rate for all markers compared, TiP uses individual marker mutation frequencies. Because marker mutation rates vary significantly between markers, the TiP scores 

As we use it here, TiP is a truer and simpler measure of genetic distances between individuals than other metrics such as the number of markers in disagreement or a sum of the differences (sometimes called "genetic distance"). TiP boils the complexities down to one number.

The composite TiP score is an index of how closely a member matches the entire group. Generally, the member with the highest score is the central member.


Unless stated otherwise, TiP probabilities are from TiP version 1 (v1) in effect from August 1, 2012 to December 11, 2012. Another version was in effect from December 12, 2012 to January 17, 2013 and was replaced with version 3 (v3) on January 18, 2013. We are in the process of updating to v3. In the meantime, we've made some observations about how v1 and v3 compare:
TiP scores R1b-35 - 11/21/2012
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TiP Scores: 37 markers, 24 generations
Number100194157892 166642159898 171797 _80547251871
100194   X0.9869 0.95840.9998 0.9524 0.67620.9998
1578920.9869   X 0.99980.9965 0.9997 0.79580.9965
1666420.95840.9998   X0.9849 0.9980 0.65230.9849
1598980.99980.9965 0.9849   X 0.9824 0.79581.0000
1717970.95240.9997 0.99800.9824   X 0.91020.9824
_805470.67620.7958 0.65230.7958 0.9102   X0.7958
2518710.99980.9965 0.98491.0000 0.9824 0.7958   X
Composite0.93600.9654 0.93810.96270.9714 0.77580.9627

Genetic distance from other groups

The most closely-related other groups in Taylor Family Genes are

It is the 44h most closely related to R1b-04 with a 0.1% chance of sharing a common paternal ancestor within 24 generations.

Haplogroup & SNPs

One member of the group has tested positive for the SNP known as Z209, indicating a likelihood that other members would also test positive for this SNP. Additional SNP testing is suggested.

Phylogenetic placement

R-Z209 is downstream (a subclade) of R-M269. The apparent progression is M269 > P312 > DF27 > Z196 > Z209. Known subclades of Z209 include Z295, Z216, C4065>L4865.NS, Z278, L629, Z214 & M153.


The highest present concentrations of the ancestral SNP DF27 are in the Pyrenees mountains and Spanish Castille. Lowwer concentratins are found in other parts o Europe.


Z209 is believed to have formed about 4.5 kya and the MRCA for all Z209+ men lived about 3.9 kya.

Revised:  30 Jun 2016