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Taylor Group R1b-033

This page is about the Taylor Y-DNA genetic family designated R1b-033, its members, Y-DNA and other information.

R1b-036 is included due to its genetic closeness,

Members

Taylor Group R1b-033 Members

Kit #
Tree
Name Most distant known ancestor Hap
grp
Score **
LoHi
_90340 Taylor Bryant Taylor (1800 NC - 1866 TX) R-L193 57.8% 100%
154174 Taylor Not submitted R-L193 57.8% 100%
N94559 Taylor Jacob Taylor (1760/65 - 1813 Posey, IN R-L193 85.0% 100%
182844 St. John Not submitted R-P311 57.8% 100%
299377 Taylor Andrew Kirby Taylor (1823 Rutherford, NC - 1906 Jackson, NC) R-L193   >80%
Taylor Group R1b-36 Members
Kit #
Tree
Name Most distant known ancestor Hap
grp
Score **
LoHi
105576 Taylor Not submitted R-M269 >80% 99.8%
166012 Taylor John Taylor (1772 NC - 1836 AL) R-L193 >80% 99.8%
322576 Taylor William Taylor (~1768 - 1830 Butler Co, AL) R-M269   >80%

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About Group 33

Group members may contribute information about their ancestral heritage.

Genetic families R1b-33 and R1b-36 seem closely aligned. Additional testing by members may tell if they are one family or separate.

The members of this line are in haplogroup R1b1za2, the most common in the Taylor surname project. Three members of R1b-33 have tested positive for the SNP L193, placing it phylogenetically in haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1b4c2 and suggesting a possible origin in the western Scottish border region and possible Brythonic Celtic heritage; tL193 is thought to have originated within the last 2,0000 years.

Y-DNA Values

See http://www.familytreedna.com/public/taylorfamilygenes/default.aspx?section=yresults.

Group R1b-033: Haplogroup = R1b1a2


Markers 1-12
DYS #39339019
(394)
391385
a
385
b
426388439389
|1
392389
|2
Count222222222222
Mode132414111111121212141330
Markers 13-25
DYS #458459
a
459
b
455454447437448449464
a
464
b
464
c
464
d
 
Count2222222222222
Mode1891011112515193014151617
Markers 26-39
DYS #464
e
464
f
460GAT
AH4
YCA
IIa
YCA
IIb
456607576570CDY
a
CDY
b
442438 
Count00222222222222
ModeN/AN/A111119231516171736391212
Markers 40-54
DYS #531578395S1a395S1b590537641472406S1511425413a413b557594
CountNone Tested
Mode
Markers 55-69
DYS #436490534450444481520446617568487572640492565
CountNone Tested
Mode

As of 5/30/2010

Haplotype Rarity

Based on the values of the individual markers, the members of this genetic family score, on average, in the Uncommon range at 37 markers and Rare at 67. Their haplotypes are among the least common 25% to 5%.

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TiP Scores

TiP general

TiP Scores Explained

TiP (for "Time Predictor") is a utility provided by Family Tree DNA. It is accessible to all FTDNA customers with Y-DNA results who have matches listed within the FTDNA reporting windows. It is also available to project administrators for calculating the probabilities that any two project members share a direct paternal ancestor within up to 24 generations.

TiP is superior to most TMRCA calculators. Rather than assume an average mutation rate for all markers compared, TiP uses individual marker mutation frequencies. Because marker mutation rates vary significantly between markers, the TiP scores 

As we use it here, TiP is a truer and simpler measure of genetic distances between individuals than other metrics such as the number of markers in disagreement or a sum of the differences (sometimes called "genetic distance"). TiP boils the complexities down to one number.

The composite TiP score is an index of how closely a member matches the entire group. Generally, the member with the highest score is the central member.

Note:

Unless stated otherwise, TiP probabilities are from TiP version 1 (v1) in effect from August 1, 2012 to December 11, 2012. Another version was in effect from December 12, 2012 to January 17, 2013 and was replaced with version 3 (v3) on January 18, 2013. We are in the process of updating to v3. In the meantime, we've made some observations about how v1 and v3 compare:
TiP scores R1b-33 - 11/21/2012
> > > > > > > >
TiP Scores: 37 markers, 24 generations
Number 154174 _90340N94559 182844 299377
154174 X1.00000.99830.57750.5792
_90340 1.0000 X0.99830.57750.5792
N94559 0.99830.9983 X0.84980.8508
182844 0.57750.57750.8498 X0.8013
299377 0.57920.57920.85080.8013X
Composite 0.76370.76370.83050.7190

Genetic distance from other groups

The most closely-related other groups in Taylor Family Genes are

The genetic similarity to R1b-09 suggests this group is near the distinct "Niall sector" of the project's "R1b genetic space". Distant ancestors may be Irish or Scots.

It is the 7th most closely related to R1b-04 with a 33% chance of sharing a common paternal ancestor within 24 generations.

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Revised: 23 Jun 2015